Portals: A replacement for the pvp world

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Re: Portals: A replacement for the pvp world

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I kind of enjoyed nether travel (at least before they broke shift-build, which made it much more dangerous). There were plenty of times I ran across other people's quick travel passages and wondered, where does this go? Found more than one base that way (all abandoned, but still).

With a portal, one would now need to find a point instead of a line, so it would be a lot harder to simply stumble on someone else's path. I'm not sure I like that.

I do like Portals better than the current pvp world / bases at 1000000m. There's always that slim chance someone follows you back to your portal.
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SilasOfBorg wrote:I kind of enjoyed nether travel (at least before they broke shift-build, which made it much more dangerous). There were plenty of times I ran across other people's quick travel passages and wondered, where does this go? Found more than one base that way (all abandoned, but still).

With a portal, one would now need to find a point instead of a line, so it would be a lot harder to simply stumble on someone else's path. I'm not sure I like that.

I do like Portals better than the current pvp world / bases at 1000000m. There's always that slim chance someone follows you back to your portal.
which is again the inherent danger of living near people

the only reason people hate it is because there's no defense against someone knowing where you are and being able to do 150% damage to your base's infrastructre no matter if you're on or not, which is frankly dumb as fuck

quick edit to expand on portals idea if it /does/ get implemented

portal cost needs to scale with the distance it covers
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If nobody has anything to add to this, should we just have a vote?
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no because it's completely silly
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I like the idea of shrinking the world a bit, the pvp world is fine and all, but the ideal scenario is where people from 100k+ away can still interact. The portals idea is cool, not sure if ideal, but it's a step in the right direction.
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Nah, we're not gonna have a vote on it. It's cleary not ill-received, and I think it'll be good for the server to try some new things.
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Yukar9 wrote:Nah, we're not gonna have a vote on it. It's cleary not ill-received, and I think it'll be good for the server to try some new things.
Not ill-received, you say
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Yukar9 wrote:So, we've had the pvp world for a long time now. The pvp world was introduced to solve the problem of people who lived far away never getting a chance to interact with other people. It does this by allowing anyone free teleports to a second world, while their actual base and coordinates remain 100% safe. It sort of works as a solution to allow players to fight, but with 100% safe bases, it takes away a significant part of the chaos server experience. As an alternative to the pvp world, I would like to propose Portals.

I propose we create a system of portals. Not like the Stargate plugins that let players just teleport to any other Stargate in the entire server, but two-way portals that are connected to one other portal, and nothing else. Players can (at a cost, probably around 1 diamond block) create a pair of portals. The player would have to in some other way visit the location of both portals to create them, so there'd be no easy teleportation to 5m out, at least not without first walking out there. The portals would then be usable and destroyable by anybody who finds them.

So for example if you have a base at 100k, you would walk to spawn to create a pair of portals linking somewhere near spawn and your base. Your base members would then be able to freely and instantly teleport between your base and the other portal, but if somebody finds the portal near spawn, or follows one of your teammates to it, they'll be able to use it and will then find themselves at your base.

In this way people are still able to build large aboveground buildings far from spawn, and still able to interact with other people with traveling for hours, but doing so poses a risk.

With regards to xray, it would be possible to add antixray to portal blocks (depending on how the portals are implemented) to make it impossible to xray for portals as long as the portal is hidden underground in stone.

Is it in any way possible to somehow link two portals with two alts, with one on each end? For example one alt at spawn puts 1 portal down, then transfers the portal blocks to /world, where they can be retrieved from the other alt to form the portal on the receiving end
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No, that would kind of ruin the purpose of forcing people to travel the distance somehow. I do think it should be possible to create portals by traveling through other portals though.
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Fair enough. And these portals will be distinguishable from nether portals, right?
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