Yukar, there's been a mistake! I was NOT the ddoser

Report hackers, or find out why you were banned
worldruler086
hated the previously assigned rank
Posts: 835
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:51 am
Location: Airtseuqe

Re: Yukar, there's been a mistake! I was NOT the ddoser

Post by worldruler086 »

mitte90 wrote:joseph in daily talk hacking = get access to restricted information/places.. u did not hack and u not banned because we call it hacking u are banned because u tried to get access to a restricted system. what we call it does not matter
>_<
I'm not sure if english is your first language (you live somewhere in Europe, I know that much), so let me translate this:

"Joseph, in the common-place language, hacking refers to getting access to restricted information and places. You weren't banned for hacking simply because we called it hacking, you were banned because, by the common-place definition, you were indeed hacking. What we call it is irrelevant."

Sorry, but grammar in english is a very big thing, as I got confused by what you trying to say.
User avatar
SolFuji
in iron armor
Posts: 175
Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:46 am

Re: Yukar, there's been a mistake! I was NOT the ddoser

Post by SolFuji »

joseph3114 wrote:Unless his password was 'password' which is the only one I tried, I didn't expect to get passed the login window.

Why do you insist that attempting to login with a common password is hacking?
Mega-LOL! Then why did you try it several times...? LOL
joseph3114
still building aboveground
Posts: 76
Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:42 pm

Re: Yukar, there's been a mistake! I was NOT the ddoser

Post by joseph3114 »

SolFuji wrote:
joseph3114 wrote:Unless his password was 'password' which is the only one I tried, I didn't expect to get passed the login window.

Why do you insist that attempting to login with a common password is hacking?
Mega-LOL! Then why did you try it several times...? LOL
FTP clients retry logins until it times out or hits a limit.
worldruler086
hated the previously assigned rank
Posts: 835
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:51 am
Location: Airtseuqe

Re: Yukar, there's been a mistake! I was NOT the ddoser

Post by worldruler086 »

Honestly the fact it was 8 times leaves me to believe it wasn't a computer. And the fact that you attempted to log in as the admins. That isn't looking good for your case. Even if you weren't being malicious, what you were doing was hacking by our definitions.
User avatar
SolFuji
in iron armor
Posts: 175
Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:46 am

Re: Yukar, there's been a mistake! I was NOT the ddoser

Post by SolFuji »

joseph3114 wrote:
SolFuji wrote:
joseph3114 wrote:Unless his password was 'password' which is the only one I tried, I didn't expect to get passed the login window.

Why do you insist that attempting to login with a common password is hacking?
Mega-LOL! Then why did you try it several times...? LOL
FTP clients retry logins until it times out or hits a limit.
And ftp clients do it with different user names... GIGA-LOL
So, what did you think you would do if you had gained access to the server as user yukar?
User avatar
LoneSoldier55
Moron
Posts: 4391
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:40 pm
Location: Equestria, Visiting Billy Mays

Re: Yukar, there's been a mistake! I was NOT the ddoser

Post by LoneSoldier55 »

Alright, this is all just fuck in the air now. I think we can stop with the giga-lol's and shit, because nobody is proving much.
User avatar
SolFuji
in iron armor
Posts: 175
Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:46 am

Re: Yukar, there's been a mistake! I was NOT the ddoser

Post by SolFuji »

LoneSoldier55 wrote:Alright, this is all just fuck in the air now. I think we can stop with the giga-lol's and shit, because nobody is proving much.
Boy,
he tries to fool us. (and in your case seems to be successful - I wonder why...). He did not do a port scan to find out if dynmap was running secretly.

Even if it were running secretly, using it unauthorized or cheating by using it would be reason enough to ban him. (I wonder why anyone could believe yukar would be running it secretly without restricting access. This story is unbelievably stupid, thus I have to admit it's creative.)
Talking about proving: There is no single proof for his story.

As he didn't find other useful open ports than ftp, he tried to connect via ftp. Yes, he is right if he says, ftp is no secret and he is right if he says, if you login annonymously depending on the tool there could be more than one attempt. But there is no plausible reason, why to try to connect with 4 different possible admin usernames. This can't happen unintended. What do you think he would have done if he gained access to the server as user yukar?
Talking about proving: He gave no compatible explanation for whad he did.

Another indication is, that there are 4 other players allegedly playing with his ip. There are always brohters and friends using the same ip when anyone is appealing somethin like this in the forum. I wonder why? Why do these people always post stupd stories in the forum in stead of just contakting the admin, apologizing and hoping he will forgive you? Do they really think they would find enough stupid people here to force yukar to unban them?

The only real evidence is what yukar found in the log. and talking about proving: He is the one who has to prove that he did not try to get admin access to the server - what he can't because the logs show it - or that he did not want to harm anyone, what he can't. Can you, boy?
If anyone can explain how someone could accidentally or naturally try to login anywhere with several usernames that would probably give you admin access to the server, I will stop laughing and apologize. Until then, stop being stupid. The truth will come out: http://simplicitypvp.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=504 (And in joseph3114s case, the truth already came out.)
joseph3114
still building aboveground
Posts: 76
Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:42 pm

Re: Yukar, there's been a mistake! I was NOT the ddoser

Post by joseph3114 »

SolFuji wrote:
Another indication is, that there are 4 other players allegedly playing with his ip. There are always brohters and friends using the same ip when anyone is appealing somethin like this in the forum. I wonder why? Why do these people always post stupd stories in the forum in stead of just contakting the admin, apologizing and hoping he will forgive you? Do they really think they would find enough stupid people here to force yukar to unban them?
Is it uncommon for friends to play together on Minecraft?
It's 3 players in total from my IP address, not 5.
The only real evidence is what yukar found in the log. and talking about proving: He is the one who has to prove that he did not try to get admin access to the server - what he can't because the logs show it - or that he did not want to harm anyone, what he can't. Can you, boy?
I think there was a misunderstanding - I did try to gain admin access to the FTP days before I was banned for trying.
The point I'm trying to argue is that I spent a total of about 5 minutes on it - and didn't try again after that.
The ONLY thing I was interested in trying was default or common passwords. After that failed, I couldn't have cared less about it.

I think it is unreasonable to keep me banned for something I spent maybe 5 minutes looking into.

Also, I linked to the port scanner in the OP. I did actually use it.
User avatar
SolFuji
in iron armor
Posts: 175
Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:46 am

Re: Yukar, there's been a mistake! I was NOT the ddoser

Post by SolFuji »

When and how often you did it does not matter.The point is that you did it, and you was banned for it. Game over. Others have been banned for using x-ray, flymod or doing other things for less than 5 minutes. You should have known about the null tolerance policy here.
joseph3114
still building aboveground
Posts: 76
Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:42 pm

Re: Yukar, there's been a mistake! I was NOT the ddoser

Post by joseph3114 »

SolFuji wrote:When and how often you did it does not matter.The point is that you did it, and you was banned for it. Game over. Others have been banned for using x-ray, flymod or doing other things for less than 5 minutes. You should have known about the null tolerance policy here.
They get jailed and asked to turn it off. They deny it and get banned.
I've been jailed and I understand what a sensitive topic this has become.

I would appreciate some courtesy from you, as the only basis for your argument is the possibility I'm lying.

Yukar has only made one post, as he hasn't been around this week. Reaching a conclusion from his one post isn't fair for this appeal.
Locked