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My claims aren't baseless, they're anecdotes. Not the best source, but a better source than the anecdotes of a person who claims not to do pvp.

As I said in my previous comment, I don't want to force people to play like me, I want to force people to stop playing all by themselves. Back when this problem originally arose, there were a series of suggestions to help improve player interaction, I supported almost all of them, the boundary was just the only one that managed to get majority support. I'm not saying the boundary has to stay up, I'm saying that we shouldn't tear the boundary down for the wrong reasons. If we add other suggestions in place of the boundary, you have my complete support in tearing it down, but events alone don't do the trick.

Finally, can we please keep this civilized? This forum would be a lot more inviting and open if we could just stick to the issue at hand, instead of turning this into a flamewar.

Edit: Beat me to post

mitte, defenses against legit players also work against xrayers. The bar is obviously higher for defenses against xrayers, but still there's no reason to not take a few precautions.

Xest, its not like the limit coming down would make the people who do PvP run 500k away. They enjoy the PvP while others don't. That is a simple fact and it cannot be changed. I mean if the limit came down tommorow would you become a socially awkward penguin?
I am sure the same can be said for many of your allies and enemies. If the limit comes down old players would flood back, meaning higher ratings for the server and therefore more new players who may just be the next xestias and assas (plural).

I just hate the x-rayers, all my bases have been well hidden, but you can't hide from x-ray, any x-rayer with a mod can switch off certain things to make sure they see what they want to see.

XRay is a problem but there are much better ways to deal with it than letting players go out as far as they want.

There was barely any PVP before the limit. I spent a lot of time at spawn before the limit, and I'd only be fighting someone once a week at best.

and there was no pvp because none wanted it.. just couse u want it dont mean everyone wants it.. its more to hardcore then running around spawn in dia armor killing noobs. and that is what i seе now. the ones that wants this kind of pvp can stay at spawn but dont force us to it.

and let people decide what solutions they can live with on there own. i am willing to live far away to hide from xrayers but im not willing to live in a black hole.

just couse u want the boundary removed dont mean everyone wants it

Well, isn't that what polls are for? Finding out what the majority wants?

yungsmc i have some evidence that more wants the limit down then up..

reason #1 as u guys did say before the limit there was no pvp (even if i think it have not evidence)
reason #2 the ones that have left and complained about it.
reason #3 the poll are in the no limit favor.

AND i did not say none wants pvp i said not all wants pvp. and taking the limit down will make everyone happy. the ones that want it can do it and the ones that dont dont have to.

dont twist my words.

How about your nipples? Can we twist those? ;D

here's a log i kept while playing for three hours

3:10 log in 13 online
4:05 Manipani killed 1ce by imicus 1ce by mrguy, 12 online
Friendly fight at base
5:00 FoSchnizzle kills pizzaworld at spawn, 11 online noob kill
5:02 pizzaworld kills catsrule 11 online spawn fight
5:03 cat>pizza
6:07 Log off, 12 online

The only pvp was between friends and spawn noobs+fo
There was about 12 players the whole time.
none of this pvp could be attributed to the limit, noobs always fight at spawn and friends already live near each other.
There were no random encounters caused by the close proximity of the limit