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Permajail for...what?
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:52 am
by Dionysus
Was just starting to warm up to this server and now find myself in permajail. Not sure what the "charges" against me are but I plead "not guilty" and demand a day in court. Hear! Hear! I demand a trial!
Re: Permajail for...what?
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:34 am
by Dionysus
Also, I'm guessing this allegation is a joke of some kind?
"wannabe troll, flaming us by entering arbitrary words in capslock"
y'all are weird
Re: Permajail for...what?
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:37 am
by worldruler086
The subtitle is due to the lack of posts. Everyone has it, once you post x amount of times, it'll go onto the next thing. And you'll get your day of court. You'll find out why you're being hanged, and then you'll be hanged.
Re: Permajail for...what?
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:55 am
by Dionysus
well I can already tell you its going to be some 12 year old with a god complex who says "I saw you doing something I subjectively think must be hacking because you are kicking far too much ass to be legit."
I wasn't hacking.
I challenge the accuser to produce a single shred of evidence other than subjective bullshit or "I'm server owner and you killed me so now you are banned."
Whatever the fascist who runs this "anarchy" outfit says, I'll wager the real offense is that I mined some obsidian from his obviously hacked obsidian castle. Clearly someone is allowed to spawn in obsidian with impunity. total BS...
I've already been hung without so much as an accusation, let along a "charge" against me.
It's like Kafka's "The Trial"... at this point I know I'm going to be permabanned regardless of my guilt or innocence, because I already have been tried, convicted, and sentenced without so much as an accusation.
I really thought this server was cool so for some strange reason I have a morbid fascination to see how they're going to justify this. Obviously the kid who likes to play god on his pet server isn't going to shake my hand and say "sorry we banned you for nothing."
This is going to be rich.
Lets see what you've got, kid. At least when you ban me it will be without evidence.
Re: Permajail for...what?
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:40 am
by FoSchnizzleTheSecond
This is not a server where some kid with a god complex runs things. Admins take no action without solid proof, and they do so with inarguable reason. Most of the time. cough cough.
Re: Permajail for...what?
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:03 am
by Dionysus
I anxiously await the presentation of this so-called "solid proof."
I admit I don't socialize much in MC server forums but I would generally expect an admin to post a notice that a specific person has been banned for a specific reason. Not just ban them and say nothing. Most servers are run by 12 year olds with god complexes and I've been banned before for telling an admin his house was ugly. Nothing surprises me anymore.
It took me hours and hours of legitimate play last night to find blaze rods and netherwart, I finally get out of the nether by the skin of my teeth, nearly drown finding a place to sleep, set my bed, then go to sleep in real life.
Get home from work ready to build a nice little hidey hole and I'm permajailed with no explanation.
At the very least it comes off as being knee-jerk. I can almost guarantee you this is based on someone else "reporting" me or otherwise whoever's damn obsidian castle I took a few blocks from is an admin.
If anyone had any "solid proof" they would have confronted me at the time told me I was busted and booted me then and there. Instead they're going to let me play for literally hours and hours and then ban me when I'm logged off?
You know if I was hacking -- fine I'd take it like a man, but I'm not gonna take a railroad job quietly. If they want to ban me for nothing, I want that to be perfectly clear to the rest of you.
Re: Permajail for...what?
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:19 am
by Dionysus
Wait something weird is going on, I just logged in and I'm still in jail but now I have Speed, Srength, Regen and Resistance and they keep renewing. It doesn't make any sense at all.
I'm being framed. Someone's fucking with me. What the hell is going on?
Re: Permajail for...what?
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:30 am
by Dionysus
So in a moment of panic I deleted my jar and reinstalled, because sometimes my kids will install mods while I'm at work. Come back in the game and I've still got all the buffs I mentioned. I was thinking that might have explained this situation but I guess not.
Oh.. duh.. its the beacons.
Alright, well, I'm still flabberghasted that someone thinks I was hacking. What gives, guys?...
ohh...wait let me ask you this-- is it possible if I was using a fortune III pick and mining a couple of fairly sizeable deposits of diamonds that your server might think I was cheating and auto-ban me?
Either that, or when I taped my mouse button down to mine obsidian while I was reading a book are the only "semi" legitimate causes I can imagine.
Re: Permajail for...what?
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:06 am
by Dionysus
Well I guess that concludes day 1 of my quest for justice -- or at least some form of explanation for my being banned, no matter how trumped up and devoid of facts...
Re: Permajail for...what?
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:30 am
by Yukar9
You were banned for xray, by me personally. I'm currently not at my desktop, but I will get your proof as soon as possible. Or perhaps if you behave, Gnatogryz will get the evidence before then.
The presumption that "its going to be some 12 year old with a god complex" is honestly just annoying and discouraging in reviewing your appeal. Not only do us admins put in a lot of time to run this server (we also pay out of our own pockets; we refuse to take donations) but we also put in a lot of effort to take all appeals seriously and ensure the server is as fair as is possible. You will never be banned for saying one of the admins houses was ugly, and nobody (not even admins) are allowed to spawn in things for personal use. All those things were built legit, and as you can see were already griefed quite heavily.
If you had opened any of the other appeals here you would have seen this. We do not publicly post every ban because we ban 20+ people a day, and only 1% of them will ever appeal. We are however very careful with not banning until we are certain beyond reasonable doubt that cheats were used, which is why so few people are pardoned. We do of course make mistakes, but it doesn't happen often.