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== Response ==
== Response ==


During the early morning of May 3rd, NotZachery was jailed for using x-ray. For roughly 2 hours he claimed innocence in chat and complained that the admins jailed him unfairly. After being told that his ban was based on obvious block logs that showed him using x-ray, he began repeatedly asking to be given those logs. The following exchange then happened:
During the early morning of May 3rd, NotZachery was jailed for using x-ray. For roughly 2 hours he claimed innocence in chat and complained that the admins jailed him unfairly. After being told that his ban was based on obvious block logs that showed him using x-ray, he began repeatedly asking to be given those logs. The complete chat logs can seen at [[Yukarion leaks a base/Chat logs]].
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<NotZachery> Please, post these logs somewhere, let's see them
Yukarion made a video showing the block logs, and posted it publically. Later that day, some players would use the coords shown in the video to go to what turned out to be a ymp base, to raid it. Other ymp members then claimed that the coords were leaked as admin abuse. ymp members complained that the video should have been sent privately, or that NotZachery did not understand that block logs would include coords, and that the admins therefore never should have sent the video.
[Server] Ok, I'll show you the logs
<NotZachery> Haha so funny
[Server] I'm serious, I'll make a video showing your digs, and post it publically
<NotZachery> please do
[Server] Everybody will be able to see your digs
<NotZachery> or just copy/paste them
[Server] So you don't want me to show your digs to everybody?
<NotZachery> Go ahead, I don't see why a video is needed
<NotZachery> but you do you
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Yukarion made a video showing the block logs, and posted it publically. Later that day, some players would use the coords shown in the video to go what turned out to be a ymp base, to raid it. Other ymp members then claimed that the coords were leaked as admin abuse. ymp members complained that the video should have been sent privately, or that NotZachery did not understand that block logs would include coords, and that the admins therefore never should have sent the video.


The video was not manually deleted, it was automatically deleted after 1 hour, to avoid it wasting space on the server.
The video was not manually deleted, it was automatically deleted after 1 hour, to avoid it wasting space on the server.
== Response to the response ==
Altough NotZachery did ask for the logs to be posted publically, there was never speak of the word "coords" in this whole fiasco, and without further clarification it seems rather odd for an admin just to post coords so willingly without checking where these coords lead to. And even though the argument could be made that "Hackers coords should be leaked" and "Its your fault for having a hacker on your team" could be made, it would make sense if he was alone, or with another hacker, but when the group with the hacker among them, not knowing that he was hacking, leaking their coords too is very, very stupid.
After [[jake276493]] made a comment in the discord asking Yukarion for some sort of compensation for leaking a non hackers base, which Dakka agrees with, It was quickly shot down for some reason by Yukarion, showing that he doesnt care about the servers players (and YMP) in any sort, further proving that Yukarion most likely leaked these coords on purpose, but the cause is not known. Without Yukarion never stating that coords were in the logs or video, and sending it publically is all very suspicious, although it still could of been a very bad mistake.
== Full Context Chat Logs ==
{{:Yukarion leaks a base/Chat logs}}

Latest revision as of 05:02, 7 May 2019

Yukarion Leaks the base, DunceVille
Event
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Name: Yukarion Leaks the base, DunceVille
In-game name:
Alts:
Status: Dunceville is griefed
Date: 2019-05-03
First joined:
Last seen:
Formed:
Abandoned:
Disbanded:
Location:
Coords:
Members: Yukarion
Clans: YeeterMyPeeter
Bases:
Schematic: {{{schematic}}}

On May 3rd, 2019, It was a normal day for YMP when suddenly, NotZachery, a new member of YMP, was banned for "X-Ray". Although this is controversial, this is the final call. Once he was banned however, he was furious and asked for proof, and once Yukarion released the video (Using /say), there was a very obvious error. When he was using logs to see what blocks were mined it was obviously showing coords, and Yukarion quickly removed the video from the site, although it was not fast enough and the player Clipchip quickly came to the base and griefed it. This caused an outrage inside YMP even making them considering migrating to another server. They later decided against this. This is the first time an admin has leaked a base, and it is still unknown if it was on accident or not, although it is widely believed that this was an attack on YMP, trying to make them quit the server for good due to how obvious the coords were in the video. This page is not an attack on Yukarion, just an informational page.

Response

During the early morning of May 3rd, NotZachery was jailed for using x-ray. For roughly 2 hours he claimed innocence in chat and complained that the admins jailed him unfairly. After being told that his ban was based on obvious block logs that showed him using x-ray, he began repeatedly asking to be given those logs. The complete chat logs can seen at Yukarion leaks a base/Chat logs.

Yukarion made a video showing the block logs, and posted it publically. Later that day, some players would use the coords shown in the video to go to what turned out to be a ymp base, to raid it. Other ymp members then claimed that the coords were leaked as admin abuse. ymp members complained that the video should have been sent privately, or that NotZachery did not understand that block logs would include coords, and that the admins therefore never should have sent the video.

The video was not manually deleted, it was automatically deleted after 1 hour, to avoid it wasting space on the server.

Response to the response

Altough NotZachery did ask for the logs to be posted publically, there was never speak of the word "coords" in this whole fiasco, and without further clarification it seems rather odd for an admin just to post coords so willingly without checking where these coords lead to. And even though the argument could be made that "Hackers coords should be leaked" and "Its your fault for having a hacker on your team" could be made, it would make sense if he was alone, or with another hacker, but when the group with the hacker among them, not knowing that he was hacking, leaking their coords too is very, very stupid.

After jake276493 made a comment in the discord asking Yukarion for some sort of compensation for leaking a non hackers base, which Dakka agrees with, It was quickly shot down for some reason by Yukarion, showing that he doesnt care about the servers players (and YMP) in any sort, further proving that Yukarion most likely leaked these coords on purpose, but the cause is not known. Without Yukarion never stating that coords were in the logs or video, and sending it publically is all very suspicious, although it still could of been a very bad mistake.

Full Context Chat Logs

  • [04:18:57] <NotZachery> WHY
  • [04:18:58] <dariepearjuicy> don don don DON!
  • [04:19:06] <J3rmin8or> lol. wow
  • [04:19:11] <NotZachery> why am I jailed
  • [04:19:12] <NotZachery> what the fuck
  • [04:19:19] <J3rmin8or> says for xray
  • [04:19:23] <NotZachery> i know
  • [04:19:23] <NotZachery> but why
  • [04:19:27] <NotZachery> I didn't x-ray lol
  • [04:19:44] <NotZachery> Console man, explain please
  • [04:19:53] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Did you read the rules when you joined?
  • [04:19:59] <NotZachery> No cheating
  • [04:20:02] <NotZachery> I didn't x-ray
  • [04:20:04] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Yes you did
  • [04:20:07] <NotZachery> where is the proof of this?
  • [04:20:16] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] In the block logs
  • [04:20:21] <NotZachery> and?
  • [04:20:44] <NotZachery> so I mined diamonds, yes, I have a way of finding them fast
  • [04:20:45] <Augusto1220> too much diamond?
  • [04:20:46] <NotZachery> it's not xray
  • [04:20:52] <NotZachery> 1 dia patch per chunk
  • [04:20:59] <J3rmin8or> hola augusto
  • [04:20:59] <NotZachery> go kinda crazy instead of normal strip mine
  • [04:21:06] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] How does that method work?
  • [04:21:16] <NotZachery> in 1.13, there is 1 diamond patch per chunk
  • [04:21:16] <Augusto1220> hola!
  • [04:21:20] <NotZachery> 1-2 at least
  • [04:21:34] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] And that helps you find diamonds how?
  • [04:22:00] <NotZachery> I don't mine normally, I go a little crazy with my paths, a little digging up here, a little digging diagnally here, and so on
  • [04:22:05] <NotZachery> this has worked very well for me
  • [04:22:06] <poison_pessimism> i forgot I ignored that guy, only getting one side of the conversation
  • [04:22:27] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] So what you're saying is you just mine randomly, and you just happened to get lucky
  • [04:22:31] <NotZachery> X-raying kinda defeats the excitment of finding diamonds anyways
  • [04:22:36] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] 169 times, in a row
  • [04:22:38] <J3rmin8or> repeatedly getting lucky?
  • [04:22:43] <NotZachery> 169?
  • [04:22:46] <NotZachery> jfc
  • [04:22:48] <J3rmin8or> wow
  • [04:22:52] <Augusto1220> haha
  • [04:23:00] <NotZachery> I guess it does work well
  • [04:23:10] <NotZachery> I knew diamonds spawned once per chunk, no matter what
  • [04:23:30] <NotZachery> I have my crazy dig around weird areas I found out about a wihle back
  • [04:23:50] <NotZachery> I know it seems sketch
  • [04:24:03] <NotZachery> But just because someone gets a *little* lucky (jfc that's a lot) doesn't mean it's x-ray
  • [04:24:08] <NotZachery> It's a matter of probablility
  • [04:24:19] <J3rmin8or> yea, but that many times in a row?
  • [04:24:27] <NotZachery> "in a row"
  • [04:24:28] <J3rmin8or> that's statistically impossibly
  • [04:24:30] <NotZachery> define this
  • [04:24:36] <NotZachery> in one mine session?
  • [04:24:48] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] It is a matter of improbability, and the probability of you hitting that many ores in a row is so astronomically small
  • [04:24:51] <NotZachery> Sure, Iw as mining for a while, I ended up chunk mining after I stopped finding diamonds
  • [04:24:52] <Augusto1220> thats exactly what a hacker that has been caught would say...
  • [04:24:58] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] If you'd hit ten times as many dead ends, then sure, but you hit no dead ends
  • [04:25:03] <J3rmin8or> yea
  • [04:25:08] <NotZachery> I hit a few dead ends lol
  • [04:25:19] <J3rmin8or> "a few"
  • [04:25:23] <J3rmin8or> out of 169 ores?
  • [04:25:31] <NotZachery> I mine on lvl 9-11, thise seems to be the best for diamonds
  • [04:25:34] <J3rmin8or> statistically impossible
  • [04:25:34] <NotZachery> honestly this is bullshit
  • [04:25:40] <NotZachery> It's not impossible at all
  • [04:25:46] <J3rmin8or> yea, i mine on that level, too, but i hit other ores
  • [04:25:59] <NotZachery> I do too
  • [04:26:11] <NotZachery> sometimes I ignore some of them, since I mostly hunt for diamonds
  • [04:26:28] <J3rmin8or> so you dig around them when they're in your path?
  • [04:26:31] <NotZachery> this is complete bullshit, I honestly did nothing wrong, and I get jailed for it
  • [04:26:40] <NotZachery> nah, I mean the ones off to the side
  • [04:26:46] <NotZachery> the ones in my way I just mine through
  • [04:26:55] <J3rmin8or> i've never hit 169 diamond ore in a row
  • [04:26:59] <Brntrogdor> It's almost like you can't even see them...
  • [04:27:00] <NotZachery> define in a row
  • [04:27:01] <J3rmin8or> with no other ores in between
  • [04:27:14] <NotZachery> lmao
  • [04:27:20] <NotZachery> no fucking way I hit that many in a row
  • [04:27:26] <J3rmin8or> that's what server said
  • [04:27:32] <NotZachery> that's some bullshit lmao
  • [04:27:39] <Brntrogdor> Sounds like server has been checking for a while on that
  • [04:27:53] <J3rmin8or> server never jails hastily
  • [04:27:55] <NotZachery> even i'm fucking surprised at that
  • [04:28:11] <NotZachery> but seriously
  • [04:28:14] <NotZachery> this is some fucking bullshit
  • [04:29:28] <NotZachery> So, server operator, so what i'm lucky, in that case it's insane, I know it looks sketchy as fuck, even i'd accuse of x-ray, but this is that one case of it not being that
  • [04:29:44] <J3rmin8or> no one gets that lucky
  • [04:29:50] <J3rmin8or> repeatedly
  • [04:30:05] <NotZachery> you can't really say no one, people get lucky sometimes
  • [04:30:10] <J3rmin8or> not THAT lucky
  • [04:30:12] <zsaum> Privet J3rmin8or
  • [04:30:18] <NotZachery> i'm just trying to defend myself so I can finish up my builds
  • [04:30:19] <J3rmin8or> sometimes implies once in a while
  • [04:30:26] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] People don't get that lucky, also people are pretty bad at being random, patterns usually always end up emerging
  • [04:30:28] <J3rmin8or> privet zsaum. kak della?
  • [04:30:40] <NotZachery> Not if you've used the technique for ages
  • [04:30:53] <J3rmin8or> so now you're just that good?
  • [04:30:59] <NotZachery> Not what I mean
  • [04:31:02] <J3rmin8or> or you've master the ways of luck?
  • [04:31:03] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] If it's actually a technique that works, you should be able to teach it to the rest of us and we can replicate it
  • [04:31:12] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Are you trying to claim it's experience instead of luck?
  • [04:31:19] <NotZachery> Not what I meant
  • [04:31:23] <Augusto1220> 169 diamond ores in one mining session, thats too much
  • [04:31:32] <NotZachery> I worded it pretty terribly
  • [04:31:38] <NotZachery> Not really
  • [04:31:43] <NotZachery> i've gotten stacks upon stacks before
  • [04:31:47] <zsaum> Normaly a kak ti?
  • [04:31:53] <J3rmin8or> dobro
  • [04:31:59] <NotZachery> i'm talking 5+ stacks from 1-2 hour mining sessions
  • [04:32:01] <J3rmin8or> xorosho*
  • [04:32:13] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] I can get diamonds that fast too
  • [04:32:14] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] if I use x-ray
  • [04:32:19] <J3rmin8or> ^^
  • [04:32:19] <Augusto1220> lol
  • [04:32:20] <Brntrogdor> ^
  • [04:32:24] <NotZachery> this is complete bullshit lol
  • [04:32:48] <Brntrogdor> I'm lucky if I get one stack after 2-3 hours of dia mining
  • [04:32:50] <zsaum> x-ray activated
  • [04:32:51] <J3rmin8or> i'm just surprised you're still sticking to your story of impossibly high levels of skill and luck
  • [04:32:53] <NotZachery> You can't really prove I was x-raying (if say I was using it) besides logs saying I managed to mine 169 diamonds
  • [04:32:56] <zsaum> beep beep
  • [04:33:01] <NotZachery> i'm sticking to it because it's true
  • [04:33:05] <NotZachery> I didn't xray for shit
  • [04:33:13] <poison_pessimism> l2math
  • [04:33:17] <NotZachery> It kinda defeats the purpose of mining and hoping to hit diamonds
  • [04:33:26] <J3rmin8or> seems like you don't need to hope
  • [04:33:42] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Look I don't blame you for being upset about getting jailed, I see you've got some hours on the server, so that sucks for you
  • [04:33:54] <NotZachery> I have, i'm a dedicated player, from when I joined
  • [04:33:55] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] But this server has one really simple rule, if you choose to break it you can't be upset about getting jailed
  • [04:34:02] <NotZachery> I try to make the most out of my experience, which is why I wouldn't xray
  • [04:34:12] <Brntrogdor> Is there some way to prove you weren't X-raying?
  • [04:34:26] <Brntrogdor> I mean, it really, really, really, looks like X-ray to everyone
  • [04:34:32] <Brntrogdor> and server is 100% sure
  • [04:34:34] <NotZachery> How exactly would I prove it?
  • [04:34:37] <J3rmin8or> every bit of it screams xray
  • [04:34:37] <Brntrogdor> since they jailed you
  • [04:34:39] <NotZachery> I'm on a non-forge client
  • [04:34:59] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] We've had people here claim they weren't x-raying because they were just using a texture pack
  • [04:35:07] <NotZachery> O_O
  • [04:35:13] <Brntrogdor> I'm just asking, because that's the only way you could possibly be un-jailed
  • [04:35:19] <Brntrogdor> so arguing is pointless
  • [04:35:24] <Brntrogdor> unless you can prove it somehow
  • [04:35:24] <NotZachery> I've never tried using a transparent texture before to xray
  • [04:35:39] <NotZachery> considering how chunks load, also I would of though the texture would of just filled in itself
  • [04:35:44] <zsaum> I can get use optifine?
  • [04:36:03] <Brntrogdor> Optifine is FINE lol
  • [04:36:09] <J3rmin8or> i use optifine and it doesn't give me xray powers
  • [04:36:16] <NotZachery> I use it too lol
  • [04:36:22] <J3rmin8or> it makes light look really cool tho
  • [04:36:30] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] You can use optifine, that's ok
  • [04:36:35] <zsaum> Thx
  • [04:37:06] <NotZachery> Is there any way I can prove myself not guilty?
  • [04:37:11] <NotZachery> I honestly like to play on here
  • [04:37:36] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Sure, explain your mining technique to everybody else, I'm sure people here would love to know how to dig straight to diamonds
  • [04:37:50] <J3rmin8or> i definitely would
  • [04:37:51] <Brntrogdor> Oooh Server! Sassy!
  • [04:37:55] <NotZachery> I can try?
  • [04:38:03] <J3rmin8or> i can't find diamonds without stripmining
  • [04:38:07] <NotZachery> So you know how I explained how diamonds generating in chunks works, right?
  • [04:38:12] <J3rmin8or> no
  • [04:38:22] <J3rmin8or> you said 1-2 dia pockets spawn per chunk
  • [04:38:38] <J3rmin8or> that doesn't explain how you know where they are located
  • [04:38:43] <NotZachery> Usually, from 1.9 and up, there are 1-2 diamond patches per chunk (Usually just 1, 2 is in very, very rare cases)
  • [04:38:46] <NotZachery> Let me explain some more
  • [04:39:05] <NotZachery> I mine on lvl 9-11 since these seem to be the most common spawn lvls for diamonds to spawn on
  • [04:39:13] <poison_pessimism> everyone does
  • [04:39:19] <Augusto1220> yes
  • [04:39:24] <J3rmin8or> and you randomly run into diamonds in weird zigzaggy patterns?
  • [04:39:30] <J3rmin8or> repeatedly?
  • [04:40:00] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Do you mine all your diamonds on lvl 9-11?
  • [04:40:04] <NotZachery> I don't mine in a straight path, it takes ages to just keep going in one direction, I do this, plus a combination of going in a few random directions, up, down, left, right, and diagonally
  • [04:40:16] <NotZachery> In most cases, yes, I find my diamonds on those levels
  • [04:40:31] <Augusto1220> that makes no sense
  • [04:40:44] <J3rmin8or> so, choosing random directions while digging a single path somehow leads you repeatedly to dia pockets?
  • [04:40:47] <Augusto1220> thaht is not a technique
  • [04:40:53] <J3rmin8or> no it's not
  • [04:40:56] <clipchip> i had this guy ignored for spam calling people niggers or something, but look at him try to talk all seriously now xd
  • [04:40:57] <NotZachery> I usually gett luck in corners of chunks, this usually is the spawn location for diamonds
  • [04:41:09] <J3rmin8or> riiiiiiiight
  • [04:41:09] <poison_pessimism> i had him ignored too
  • [04:41:15] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Out of the first 5 digs I randomly just checked, 3 were below y=7 and 2 were right on bedrock
  • [04:41:16] <NotZachery> I know this sounds weird, but it works surprisingly well
  • [04:41:18] <J3rmin8or> "usually get lucky"
  • [04:41:28] <J3rmin8or> especially when combined with xray
  • [04:41:45] <NotZachery> I tried explaining it, if you don't take it serious, w/e
  • [04:41:58] <NotZachery> It's complete bullshit that this is the only way to prove myself not guilty
  • [04:42:09] <J3rmin8or> all you've explained is that your random directional choices bring you luck
  • [04:42:17] <J3rmin8or> and nobody is lucky that many times in a row
  • [04:42:17] <NotZachery> out of the many servers i've done this on, this is the only one that called me for bullshit
  • [04:42:26] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Well to be honest you can't really prove yourself innocent, the evidence is pretty clear to me
  • [04:42:41] <NotZachery> What evidence? That I got extremely lucky by mining
  • [04:42:42] <Augusto1220> lets vote
  • [04:42:51] <Augusto1220> Jail him
  • [04:43:05] <Brntrogdor> He's already jailed
  • [04:43:10] <Augusto1220> hH
  • [04:43:13] <Augusto1220> haha
  • [04:43:18] <J3rmin8or> lol
  • [04:43:19] <NotZachery> Obviously, you'll choose to keep me jailed in a vote, the "evidence" looks like i'm xraying, and it's not what it seems
  • [04:43:25] <NotZachery> Like I said, it's one of those super rare cases
  • [04:43:46] <NotZachery> I'm honestly trying to defend myself here, this is one of the only servers that brought back my joy in this game
  • [04:43:53] <J3rmin8or> you joined a server and immediately hit a string of 169 dia ore
  • [04:44:04] <NotZachery> Out of my many hours
  • [04:44:06] <Brntrogdor> ^ I'd be happy too lol
  • [04:44:12] <NotZachery> I was happy, until now
  • [04:44:16] <NotZachery> i'm pretty upset about this
  • [04:44:24] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] I'm pretty upset about people cheating on this server
  • [04:44:35] <NotZachery> I can understand that
  • [04:44:38] <NotZachery> I know the frustration
  • [04:44:47] <Augusto1220> hahaha
  • [04:44:59] <NotZachery> I've been admin on many servers, i've dealt with a lot of stupid shit before
  • [04:45:04] <Augusto1220> dude just stop
  • [04:45:13] <NotZachery> The most common way we proved people guilty was by screensharing them
  • [04:45:16] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] I think if you made a YouTube video showing your special diamond finding technique, you'd get a lot of views
  • [04:45:18] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] If it works of course
  • [04:45:18] <NotZachery> Stop what? Denfind myself
  • [04:45:28] <NotZachery> defending*
  • [04:45:34] <poison_pessimism> you're just digging yourself a deeper hole.
  • [04:45:39] <poison_pessimism> and hitting all the diamonds in the way
  • [04:45:46] <NotZachery> Yeah, into a cave full of bullshit
  • [04:45:54] <clipchip> the only reason it's a jail instead of a ban is so we can all laugh at you anyway
  • [04:46:13] <NotZachery> Laugh at me? For doing nothing wrong?
  • [04:46:18] <clipchip> yeah
  • [04:47:09] <J3rmin8or> so, in 60 hours, you managed to get set up and then mine 169 dia ore?
  • [04:47:23] <NotZachery> 60 hours? jfc
  • [04:47:27] <J3rmin8or> just by digging a single line in random directions
  • [04:47:31] <NotZachery> I thought it was like 40 or something
  • [04:47:36] <J3rmin8or> 59
  • [04:47:46] <NotZachery> but yes, I got lucky this time
  • [04:47:56] <Brntrogdor> That's such a short amount of time...
  • [04:47:56] <J3rmin8or> mhm
  • [04:47:59] <poison_pessimism> meh, I could get 169 ore in 60 hours if I spent the whole time mining pretty easily
  • [04:48:08] <Brntrogdor> I've got 1210 hours just on this account O.o
  • [04:48:12] <NotZachery> *sigh*
  • [04:48:15] <J3rmin8or> yea but not within 60 hours of joining the server
  • [04:48:18] <NotZachery> this is some bullshit, but w/e
  • [04:49:12] <J3rmin8or> the only bullshit seems to be coming from you
  • [04:49:16] <NotZachery> how so?
  • [04:49:22] <NotZachery> I am the one who did nothing wrong here
  • [04:49:27] <J3rmin8or> right
  • [04:49:33] <NotZachery> Why would I bother defending myself for this long if I was cheating
  • [04:49:39] <J3rmin8or> lots of people do it
  • [04:49:42] <poison_pessimism> because every cheater does
  • [04:49:44] <J3rmin8or> surprisingly
  • [04:49:54] <NotZachery> you would to, if you did nothing wrong
  • [04:49:58] <J3rmin8or> they are all just as vehement in their arguments
  • [04:50:17] <Brntrogdor> Guys.... I bet next he's going to tell us he's also... Not Zachery!
  • [04:50:21] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] If the best argument you have for why it's unfair is that you were just lucky, then sucks to be you
  • [04:50:23] <poison_pessimism> shameless liar
  • [04:50:44] <NotZachery> Sucks to be me? I was pretty happy to bring in a shit load of diamonds when I got them
  • [04:50:47] <poison_pessimism> "I mine on 9-11" whoops
  • [04:50:48] <NotZachery> but i'm sure I didn't mine 169 in a row
  • [04:51:05] <J3rmin8or> i watch towers fall on 9-11
  • [04:51:12] <poison_pessimism> lol
  • [04:51:14] <NotZachery> I specfically recall mining other ores while I was chunk mining for a while
  • [04:51:43] <J3rmin8or> apparently the server logs don't
  • [04:51:46] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] I didn't mean you didn't mine other ores, you mined 169 ores in total without taking detours
  • [04:51:55] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Going from one ore to the next
  • [04:52:37] <J3rmin8or> yea. nobody is that lucky
  • [04:52:44] <NotZachery> W/o taking detours? I recall running into a few dead ends, and mining around various shit
  • [04:53:44] <NotZachery> Please, post these logs somewhere, let's see them
  • [04:53:48] <NotZachery> Even i'm curious
  • [04:53:52] <Brntrogdor> Oh no... I just found diamonds
  • [04:53:59] <J3rmin8or> JAIL
  • [04:54:00] <MisterStrawman> lol, remember doctorscary?
  • [04:54:10] <J3rmin8or> no lol
  • [04:54:10] <Brntrogdor> ^I've been mining this ENTIRE time for diamonds
  • [04:54:13] <MisterStrawman> "are you sure someone didn't edit the logs?"
  • [04:54:17] <Brntrogdor> and this is the first patch I've found
  • [04:56:25] <NotZachery> I'm honestly trying not to act like a child right now, but i'm beyond pissed about this, the fact that i'm being accused of x-ray, the jailed, w/o any proof that I was x-raying whatsoever
  • [04:56:50] <Brntrogdor> No proof at all... just block logs
  • [04:56:57] <Brntrogdor> *proof
  • [04:57:18] <clipchip> something that was nice about bans was that people had to complain on the forums which was always entertaining
  • [04:57:21] <NotZachery> Block logs mean just about nothing, so what I got exteremly lucky by mining the way I do, shit happens
  • [04:57:39] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] You said you were able to do it consistently though
  • [04:57:51] <Brntrogdor> And you got banned for using X-ray to do it, shit happens
  • [04:58:42] <NotZachery> I can try to do it consistently, it usually works well for me, i've done it on many servers i've played on in the past
  • [05:00:19] <J3rmin8or> again, it's statistically impossibly for you to get lucky that many times in a row
  • [05:00:35] <J3rmin8or> straight from one ore to the next
  • [05:00:52] <NotZachery> It's not statistically impossible
  • [05:00:59] <NotZachery> And straight from one ore to the next?
  • [05:01:06] <NotZachery> Like I said, I mined many other ores inbetween
  • [05:01:18] <NotZachery> Specfically coal and iron, the two things I complain about the most
  • [05:01:32] <J3rmin8or> i've played this game for 10 years. yes, it's statistically impossible to get THAT lucky
  • [05:01:52] <NotZachery> I literally filled my inventory with just iron, coal, diamonds, and redstone, just so I would pick up those items, I only mined those items
  • [05:01:58] <NotZachery> I've played this game for ages too
  • [05:02:16] <NotZachery> I've always used my "technique"
  • [05:02:30] <NotZachery> In most cases I get a lot of shit from it
  • [05:02:35] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] your digs are inconsistent with your so-called "technique"
  • [05:02:59] <J3rmin8or> technique = xray
  • [05:03:20] <NotZachery> Most should be, I went from strip, to my weird ass techique, to chunk mining the shit out of a chunk until I found something
  • [05:03:23] <NotZachery> It was a matter of how often I found this
  • [05:03:34] <NotZachery> shit
  • [05:04:32] <J3rmin8or> i guess you're just the minecraft master, then. able to dig straight to ores, just by choosing random directions
  • [05:05:14] <NotZachery> This is bullshit, honestly, the fact that this is even happening still
  • [05:05:34] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] You can leave at any time
  • [05:05:42] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Probably thought we check diamond/stone ratio
  • [05:06:00] <NotZachery> Lol, diamond/stone ratio
  • [05:06:06] <NotZachery> Please, show these logs somewhere
  • [05:06:09] <NotZachery> I'd love to see them
  • [05:06:22] <NotZachery> I'd love to see this so-called "evidence"
  • [05:06:55] <J3rmin8or> showing you the logs won't get you out of jail
  • [05:07:00] <J3rmin8or> or convince anyone you're not lying
  • [05:07:31] <NotZachery> I just want to see them
  • [05:07:37] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Ok, I'll show you the logs
  • [05:07:52] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Come back in an hour
  • [05:08:02] <J3rmin8or> that way you'll know how to hide your tracks a little better
  • [05:08:11] <MisterStrawman> hah
  • [05:08:24] <J3rmin8or> haha
  • [05:08:27] <NotZachery> Haha so funny
  • [05:08:40] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] I'm serious, I'll make a video showing your digs, and post it publically
  • [05:08:45] <NotZachery> please do
  • [05:08:45] <Brntrogdor> wait til it happens... then you'll see how funny it is
  • [05:08:46] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Everybody will be able to see your digs
  • [05:08:49] <NotZachery> or just copy/paste them
  • [05:09:08] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] So you don't want me to show your digs to everybody?
  • [05:09:16] <Tacobellington> Can you do the same for me please? I think I was jailed because I made a program to right click when it heard noise for fishing
  • [05:09:17] <NotZachery> copy pasting text?
  • [05:09:26] <NotZachery> Go ahead, I don't see why a video is needed
  • [05:09:29] <NotZachery> but you do you
  • [05:09:54] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Well I can give you a dump of your digs as well, but that's not as easy to read
  • [05:09:59] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] This is a lot easier for everybody
  • [05:10:07] <NotZachery> Alright
  • [05:10:21] <NotZachery> I personally just want to see how these logs show me "xraying"
  • [05:11:03] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Sorry Taco, your block logs are gone because it's been over a month
  • [05:11:07] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Did you ask for this earlier?
  • [05:11:24] <Tacobellington> I tried like a week ago. I stopped playing and came back jailed
  • [05:11:39] <Tacobellington> Tried looking on the wiki but I couldn't see anything
  • [05:13:12] <Tacobellington> Idk if it was because I wrote a program to fish afk. But I wasn't using a hacked client or anything other than optifine
  • [05:13:24] <NotZachery> I feel the pain here
  • [05:13:45] <NotZachery> So, Tacobellington, what are you in for?
  • [05:15:27] <Brntrogdor> Well, I finished my new mega furnace
  • [05:15:38] <J3rmin8or> maga furnace?
  • [05:15:44] <NotZachery> super smelter?
  • [05:15:54] <Brntrogdor> 14 furnaces together in one unit, cooks an item per second or so
  • [05:15:58] <NotZachery> yep
  • [05:16:01] <NotZachery> That shit is op asf
  • [05:16:03] <J3rmin8or> super trumper
  • [05:16:08] <J3rmin8or> MAGA furnace
  • [05:16:15] <NotZachery> Also, J3rmin8or, if you care at all, I managed to get my old stuff back, by sitting for hours and grinding..
  • [05:16:22] <Brntrogdor> went through 4 double chests of cobble today in the couple hours I've been on
  • [05:16:27] <NotZachery> Just thought you'd be interested in hearing about it
  • [05:17:08] <MisterStrawman> afk
  • [05:17:13] <Brntrogdor> Added a Hopper Minecart to move the cooked items to a storage area
  • [05:17:17] <Brntrogdor> pretty nifty
  • [05:17:31] <NotZachery> Ehh, it didn't want to work right for me, so I just connected them all to hoppers
  • [05:17:44] <NotZachery> ofc now it's kinda useless, unless the members of ymp want to use it
  • [05:18:42] <Brntrogdor> Running the whole thing on Lava buckets...
  • [05:18:46] <NotZachery> ew
  • [05:18:50] <Tacobellington> Yo server you still on?
  • [05:18:53] <Brntrogdor> Takes a little extra care, but it's free
  • [05:18:55] <NotZachery> I can never get that to work for me
  • [05:19:12] <Brntrogdor> Super easy
  • [05:19:14] <NotZachery> nah he prolly went to get logs
  • [05:19:16] <Brntrogdor> idk why people have issues with it
  • [05:19:19] <Brntrogdor> anywho
  • [05:19:22] <Brntrogdor> see ya never
  • [05:19:25] <Brntrogdor> goodnight
  • [05:19:32] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Yes, I'm on, I'm busy with NotZachery right now
  • [05:19:33] <NotZachery> I wanted mine to be full auto, I could never get the bucket out to replace them
  • [05:24:16] <Tacobellington> no? What was the weird way you found them?
  • [05:27:21] <SimCoin> Anyone looking to buy some SimCoin S4?
  • [05:27:49] <Tacobellington> So @server, am I just SOL since you can't see my logs?
  • [05:27:57] <NotZachery> :/
  • [05:28:00] <NotZachery> rip
  • [05:28:08] <zsaum> NotZachery was jailed?
  • [05:28:15] <Tacobellington> Yup
  • [05:28:18] <NotZachery> Yes *sigh*
  • [05:28:22] <zsaum> Blya :(
  • [05:28:28] <zsaum> F
  • [05:28:32] <NotZachery> :(
  • [05:28:33] <SimCoin> For what?
  • [05:28:36] <NotZachery> "xray"
  • [05:28:41] <zsaum> khm
  • [05:29:02] <NotZachery> I wasn't x-raying, but these magical logs say otherwise
  • [05:29:07] <zsaum> Not cool
  • [05:29:28] <Tacobellington> Caught ya
  • [05:29:35] <NotZachery> ahhh
  • [05:29:43] <SimCoin> I am glad another cheater is gone.
  • [05:29:47] <NotZachery> rude
  • [05:29:56] <SimCoin> Now buy SimCoin to support the funding of my bank
  • [05:30:05] <NotZachery> I would if I wasn't jailed :thonk:
  • [05:30:18] <SimCoin> U r gay
  • [05:30:22] <NotZachery> very much
  • [05:30:32] <NotZachery> super fucking gay
  • [05:30:37] <Tacobellington> How much is one simcoin worth?
  • [05:30:43] <SimCoin> 4 Diamonds atm Tacobellington
  • [05:30:45] <NotZachery> I was wondering that too
  • [05:30:47] <NotZachery> ooo not bad
  • [05:30:57] <NotZachery> Now I would def invest
  • [05:31:02] <SimCoin> Would you like some Tacobellington?
  • [05:31:07] <Tacobellington> Who judges that economy? and what'd the point in using it if i can just use diamonds
  • [05:31:10] <SimCoin> ./ignore NotZachery
  • [05:31:10] <NotZachery> he's my cell mate
  • [05:31:15] <NotZachery> no don't do that
  • [05:31:16] <NotZachery> :(
  • [05:31:20] <SimCoin> Tacobellington SIm
  • [05:31:37] <Tacobellington> What is the simcoin physically?
  • [05:31:51] <SimCoin> Tacobellington SimCoin is an investment into the server. It is a collectable item that many people on the server collect and buy. A SimCoin is a written book with a hashnumber
  • [05:31:59] <SimCoin> Only 100 Series 4 SimCoins will be printed.
  • [05:32:05] <Tacobellington> Hey zachary, lets see if we can hit eachother if we jump out of jail quickly
  • [05:32:13] <NotZachery> XD
  • [05:32:16] <NotZachery> I doubt that will work
  • [05:32:20] <SimCoin> Series 1 SimCoins however are now worth 10+ diamond blocks eacjh
  • [05:32:29] <SimCoin> Tacobellington are you jailed?
  • [05:32:33] <Tacobellington> yessir
  • [05:32:38] <SimCoin> Oh...
  • [05:32:46] <NotZachery> both unfairly jailed I assume
  • [05:32:47] <SimCoin> I explained SimCoin for nothing D:
  • [05:32:48] <Tacobellington> come over here
  • [05:33:09] <SimCoin> I do not negoiate with cheaters.
  • [05:33:12] <Tacobellington> lmao it wont work
  • [05:33:16] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Ok NotZachary, got a walkthrough of a few of your digs uploading now
  • [05:33:16] <NotZachery> we didn't cheat :(
  • [05:33:22] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Tacobellington I'll look into your logs now
  • [05:33:24] <NotZachery> Finally
  • [05:33:40] <Tacobellington> Ty broski
  • [05:33:48] <SimCoin> Server would you like to purchase some SimCoin to invest in SimPvp?
  • [05:34:48] <zsaum> :D
  • [05:35:11] <zsaum> When will update on 1.14
  • [05:35:28] <zsaum> server
  • [05:36:24] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] We're not sure yet, when it's stable enough for us to update
  • [05:36:26] <SimCoin> Selling Series 4 SimCoin /msg SimCoin
  • [05:36:33] <NotZachery> define stable
  • [05:36:37] <SimCoin> Server would you like to buy some SimCoins?
  • [05:36:44] <Tacobellington> Also gotta have all the plugins too
  • [05:36:52] <Augusto1220> what are SimCoins?
  • [05:36:59] <NotZachery> Well, the plugins shouldn't break at all
  • [05:37:06] <NotZachery> Considering the api hasn't changed much
  • [05:37:10] <SimCoin> A currency used widely among many people on the server Augusto1220
  • [05:37:17] <SimCoin> Better than diamonds
  • [05:37:19] <Tacobellington> 'widely'
  • [05:37:24] <SimCoin> Yes
  • [05:37:26] <Tacobellington> 'better than diamonds'
  • [05:37:44] <SimCoin> ostrich1414, clipchip, Sellout9, B9B9, Eccentric, ProveMeWrong, Sellout8 and More
  • [05:38:00] <SimCoin> Anthand and MoMobbler
  • [05:38:02] <Tacobellington> You know who uses diamonds? Obama
  • [05:38:17] <SimCoin> SimCoins are the way to get ur name out there with these old playersd
  • [05:38:43] <SimCoin> You /msg ostrich1414 and he will sell you coords but he only accepts simcoins sometimes
  • [05:38:58] <Tacobellington> get obama on the simcoin train and we'll talk
  • [05:39:09] <SimCoin> Obama invented simcoin.
  • [05:39:41] <Tacobellington> Honestly hitler invented simcoin
  • [05:39:55] <NotZachery> oh finally
  • [05:40:15] <Augusto1220> oh
  • [05:40:17] <SimCoin> Server do you want to buy simcoins or not!
  • [05:40:44] <NotZachery> ngl this is a good log system
  • [05:40:54] <NotZachery> Actually something I was considering making for pvp servers
  • [05:41:39] <zsaum> mkv?
  • [05:41:43] <zsaum> What is it?
  • [05:42:51] <Tacobellington> NotZachary seems to have a pattern going on with how he mines at least a little, go in one line, every 2 blocks branch out till you hit something
  • [05:43:10] <SimCoin> But he goes down and up straight to diamoands
  • [05:43:15] <NotZachery> This doesn't prove much
  • [05:43:23] <NotZachery> This is my chunk mine pattern
  • [05:43:29] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] He does a strip mine, at the same level, then the one time he decides to go up, he hits diamonds
  • [05:43:30] <NotZachery> where I mine out a chunk
  • [05:43:38] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] then 3 corridors down he decides to dig down, and he hits diamonds
  • [05:43:44] <zsaum> How it is really cheats
  • [05:43:56] <NotZachery> this proves nothing?
  • [05:44:02] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] He digs tunnels, randomly goes through some normal looking stone, finds diamonds, goes straight 3 blocks and goes left, finds diamonds
  • [05:44:10] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] then goes a little further and goes down, finds diamonds
  • [05:44:13] <Tacobellington> You're right, I didn't pay too much attention to that
  • [05:44:15] <zsaum> I seeю
  • [05:45:32] <NotZachery> The first one, I decide to go up, I get lucky, that one surprised me
  • [05:45:57] <NotZachery> The second one, I finished mining the chunk on that one level, I check the tunnels, goes to end of chunk or dead end, so I start to mine down on the one I already accidently started progress on
  • [05:46:00] <SimCoin> Alright we should all move on, buy some SimCoin and chill
  • [05:46:13] <Augusto1220> hahahaw
  • [05:46:21] <Tacobellington> Id buy some if 1. I had diamonds on me, and 2. I could drop items
  • [05:46:23] <Augusto1220> simecoin
  • [05:46:32] <Augusto1220> what is that made of
  • [05:46:38] <SimCoin> It is a written book
  • [05:46:42] <SimCoin> That is offical
  • [05:46:50] <Tacobellington> lmao you made cryptocurrency in minecraft
  • [05:46:51] <Augusto1220> who makes them
  • [05:46:57] <SimCoin> SimCoin!
  • [05:46:59] <SimCoin> Me
  • [05:46:59] <Augusto1220> I guess you
  • [05:47:02] <Augusto1220> yeah
  • [05:47:06] <Augusto1220> how many are they
  • [05:47:28] <clipchip> wb
  • [05:47:33] <dariepearjuicy> hey
  • [05:47:37] <SimCoin> There will be 100 Series 4 SimCoins printed, however only 62 have currently been printed with 2 left in stock
  • [05:47:41] <Tacobellington> Server you still working on me or should I give up?
  • [05:47:55] <Augusto1220> I see
  • [05:48:04] <Augusto1220> how much is one of those worth
  • [05:48:08] <SimCoin> 4 Diamonds.
  • [05:48:12] <NotZachery> Right, so the next one, literally the way I explained my mining
  • [05:48:17] <SimCoin> They are going up in price though
  • [05:48:37] <NotZachery> a little futher, next chunk iirc
  • [05:48:53] <SimCoin> Augusto1220 how many can i put you down for?
  • [05:48:58] <NotZachery> we all mine differently
  • [05:49:02] <NotZachery> but this video proves nothing
  • [05:49:26] <Tacobellington> He's crafted the way he mines. Some would say he Mine crafted
  • [05:49:31] <NotZachery> I have to admit, this logging system is pretty nice
  • [05:49:36] <NotZachery> lmao
  • [05:49:41] <NotZachery> idk why I laughed at that
  • [05:49:50] <SimCoin> Augusto1220?
  • [05:49:57] <Tacobellington> I'll just log on every day to tell a joke
  • [05:50:03] <Augusto1220> Ill keep using diamonds for now
  • [05:50:13] <Tacobellington> How can you tell your sister is on her period?
  • [05:50:18] <SimCoin> Would you like to buy one to see how it goes?
  • [05:50:21] <NotZachery> no more jokes :rofl:
  • [05:50:23] <Tacobellington> Your dad's dick tastes like blood
  • [05:50:27] <Tacobellington> Heyo
  • [05:50:28] <NotZachery> lmao
  • [05:50:32] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Thank you zsaum, that looks normal
  • [05:50:38] <zsaum> :)
  • [05:50:47] <Augusto1220> but thanks
  • [05:50:49] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] It is very obvious how odd NotZachary's tunnels are if you've seen people not cheating dig
  • [05:50:56] <NotZachery> Like I said, we mine differently, the way I happen to mine looks kinda sketch
  • [05:51:16] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] There's a different between looking kind of sketchy, and looking and sketchy and also constantly hitting diamonds
  • [05:51:18] <NotZachery> I completely understand why you'd be a little sketched out by it
  • [05:51:19] <Tacobellington> If NotZachery is the only person who found that joke funny, i'm pissed
  • [05:51:30] <SimCoin> It wasent
  • [05:51:38] <zsaum> +
  • [05:51:45] <SimCoin> Incest jokes are only funny to 12 year olds
  • [05:51:49] <NotZachery> lol
  • [05:51:55] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Sorry Tacobellington, not much to see in the logs
  • [05:52:01] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] I'll ask the admin who jailed you though
  • [05:52:05] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] when he comes on
  • [05:52:09] <Tacobellington> WHo was it?
  • [05:52:14] <NotZachery> This still proves nothing though, and I can't see how this is the only evidence against me
  • [05:52:16] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] That's irrelevant
  • [05:52:33] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] NotZachery this has been fun, you're not getting out of jail
  • [05:52:33] <SimCoin> NotZachery just give up bro
  • [05:52:39] <Tacobellington> bro but my house was so cute
  • [05:52:39] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Every minute you spend here is just you wasting more time
  • [05:52:40] <NotZachery> Lol
  • [05:52:43] <NotZachery> For doing nothing wrong
  • [05:52:45] <NotZachery> That's bullshit
  • [05:52:50] <dariepearjuicy> hello
  • [05:52:59] <SimCoin> dariepearjuicy would you like to purchase some SimCoin?
  • [05:53:11] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] At the very least you could have been less obvious in your cheating
  • [05:53:15] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] You might have gotten away with it
  • [05:53:19] <NotZachery> Why the hell would a dedicated player, who has nearly 60 hours in the past, what, 8 days? cheat
  • [05:53:21] <Tacobellington> hahahahaha oooof
  • [05:53:33] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] I know, it beats me
  • [05:53:36] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Some people are just stupid I guess
  • [05:53:42] <Augusto1220> hahaha
  • [05:53:43] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Maybe they're arrogant and think they'll never get caught
  • [05:53:48] <NotZachery> less obvious?
  • [05:53:50] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Maybe they're used to being able to argue their way out of anything
  • [05:54:09] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Maybe they're still young and have never experienced any consequences for anything
  • [05:54:15] <NotZachery> How could it of it been less obvious, if I wasn't cheating, like I said, my ways of mining look sketch, I completely understan
  • [05:54:20] <NotZachery> But you need to understand my pov aswell
  • [05:54:21] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Maybe they think they're special and should be allowed to do things easier than other people
  • [05:54:40] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] I understand your point of view, which is that you're upset you got caught cheating on a server you've put 60 hours into
  • [05:54:47] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] so you're going to try to argue your way out of it
  • [05:54:54] <SimCoin> Anyone wanna sell me Ink Sacks?
  • [05:54:57] <NotZachery> Look, i'm not trying to be an ass here, i'm trying to reason with you, and appeal this fail jail
  • [05:55:28] <NotZachery> I'm trying to be as nice as possible, but i'm honestly pissed about this, about how i'm jailed with no valid evidence against me, please, understand where i'm coming from hre
  • [05:55:31] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] It's a good life lesson for you, this approach might work with teachers and parents, but it's not gonna work when you eventually grow up and enter the real world
  • [05:55:31] <NotZachery> here*
  • [05:56:11] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server] Take it for what it is, don't try to double-down and make a fool out of yourself
  • [05:56:22] <SimCoin> Too late lol
  • [05:56:24] <NotZachery> Listen, i'm not 12, I understand shit, but i'm beyond pissed now
  • [05:56:36] <dariepearjuicy> come over here
  • [05:56:43] <SimCoin> NotZachery you sound like you are about to ask to see the manager
  • [05:56:53] <NotZachery> lmao
  • [05:57:03] <NotZachery> "Let me see your manager"
  • [05:57:10] <clipchip> NotZachery are you part of ymp?